Start with No (book review)

In his 2016 book, Never Split the Difference Chris Voss suggests Jim Camp’s, 2011 book, Start with No

To Voss, ‘no’ is progress. Too often ‘yes’ is said for appeasing purposes and ‘maybe’ means we haven’t clarified what’s important. But ‘no’ is firm, it’s progress. 

Camp explores this idea deeper. He, like Voss, dislikes win-win negotiations. First, they lead to unnecessary compromises. In an effort to let both sides ‘get something’ negotiators compromise too much and on the wrong things. A 10% discount in exchange for a longer contract is good only if it’s important. Too often, Camp writes, people compromise on things which don’t matter. 

Second, win-win is considered fair. Who judges what’s fair? There’s no master evaluator. There are ethics though. Camp’s model is analogous to sports. Prepare, train, and play as hard as you can within the rules for the full period of time. Once the event is over, shake hands and respect your opponent. 

Third is the idea Voss runs with, a ‘no’ is progress, it’s “a decision that gives everyone something to talk about.” 

If ‘no’ is so important, why write a book? This coulda been a tweet. 

Well, no. There’re better ways to get to ’no’. And this book is really about something else entirely.

Our second house was a for sale by owner. A nice family with a nice home. We sniffed around each other like dogs with our initial questions and when asked about his timeline for building their next house the owner said, ‘I’m in no rush, I’ve got a house now’. 

That was good. He conveyed un-neediness. Being needy is Camp’s first warning. Do. Not. Need. A. Deal. Both Camp and Voss frame themselves against the classic negotiation book, 1981’s, Getting to Yes. Their books, they say, highlight what GtY gets wrong. Fair. But Getting to Yes presents the BATNA: best alternative to a negotiated agreement. That’s essential to un-neediness. 

The heart of un-needines, and of good negotiations is the secret message of the book. Start with No is really about our ego

Being needy is ego. Camp’s second rule is to act like Columbo. Disarm the adversary. In other words, put ego aside. Don’t try to be impressive, smart, or IN CHARGE. Don’t elucidate and don’t use words like elucidate. Camp warns about trying to be liked (chapters 2, 3), to be smart (6), or only talking about your side (4, 7, 8, 9). 

It’s hard to Start with No when you start with yourself.

The role of ego varies in size and scope. A successful negotiator finds the right balance of their own and their adversary’s point of view. This is the root of Camp’s system. It’s also the heart of copywriting and JTBD

Good negotiations are difficult and rare, Camp writes. That makes sense! To be a successful negotiator (according to Camp) we have to check our ego – a problem humans have been dealing with for hundreds of years. 

Camp tells a lot of ‘me’ stories. They’re about his big deal big deals, his awesome son, his business. It’s a little much (Voss’ stories are better). But hidden in those is a wonderful exploration of our ego and what we can do about it. 

Ego is tricky because like picking our nose, we don’t notice. It’s part of us. But when someone contrasts another way it makes us pause and consider that. For instance, “the most important behavioral goal and habit you can develop is your ability to ask questions” or “The self-image of the individual in the selling role traps him or her in a neediness mode and often leads to bad deals.” That frames our behavior and leads to questions like do I ask enough questions or am I needy because I want to feel smart, impressive, helpful, or whatever?

Camp’s book introduces his perspective, and that’s a good start to good negotiations.

Glad, not sad, well clad dads and grads

I do not like these words and frames, I do not like the discount games, I do not like the way this stands, I do not like this ad’s brand. 

Apologies to Dr. Seuss, but this dad and grads ad from Twillory in the Money Stuff newsletter is just sad. 

(I’ll stop now)

The problem with a ‘Dads & Grads Sale!’ is that people don’t really want to save money on these gifts. Father’s Day and graduation are special. There’s nothing people get for their dads that reflects their role. A coffee machine or picture frame or dress shirt doesn’t say ‘Thanks, I love you’ for all the conversations, miles, and smiles of our lives. But we try. 

Except deals. Dads and grads shopping is a ‘you get what you pay for situation’. Reframe it. If Mother’s Day flowers were half off would you still do it? It’s different, right? 

Unless they’re a deal finder (Hi Uncle Frank!) there’s no utility in the discount. Discounts do push action – but there’s already a deadline, Father’s Day! 

The wasted space on ‘discount’ should focus on value. The Twillory reviews have good wording for this: breathable, my old suits don’t cut it anymore, my new favorite work shirt, most comfortable shirt I’ve ever owned, great for road trips, stretch and comfortable, these products now dominate my wardrobe.  

That language is what the ad should say. 

Follow the link and there’s a two for X sale. That’s good. It could have been the messaging: buy for you and dad. That’s a way to rewrite the ad. Another:

October 27, 2021: @Twillory amazing customer service.  Performance pants I ordered were too short. Within a day, and before receiving my return, you shipped out the new size. No company of any size has ever done that. Always told I need to wait. Trust your customers like Twillory!!!

Just copy a tweet. This uses the language of the customer and reduces hesitation about a new brand with a new fabric. Or:

Sponsored Content: Father’s Day is June 19. Dads and Grads need help looking good. Don’t buy whatever polo and pants – buy something nice. Whether for the graduate’s first job, internship, or six weeks backpacking Europe or for dad’s round of golf, Sunday service, or dinner with mom – buy something nice. Order by June 24th for free shipping on orders of two shirts or more. 

The angle here is that the customer is not the consumer. Also, the discount shouldn’t be for the merchandise directly. Free shipping or socks or gifts work better because they retain the product’s value. 

All of the parts of the ad are true, but they could be better (copy)written. Second consider the ‘job’ of the gift giving (don’t be cheap, buy something nice) and of the gift (wear this in these circumstances). Happy early Father’s Day to all the dads out there. 

This could be wrong. Their strategy may suggest this copy. But it feels inferior and stiff unlike their shirts.